My Conversation with Chris Fabry

It’s always a pleasure to be on Chris Fabry’s program on Moody Radio ( Here is a link for those who are interested in listening to my conversation with Chris about disappointment with Jesus. Scroll down to the August 12 program: (

While you are at it, you might listen to the program he did on August 13 about small churches (a subject that is near and dear to my heart).

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